The Extreme Tour

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WARNING: I haven't had any direct experience with these guys, except for a couple email exchanges. It looks like they are asking for a submission fee for an audition which I'm not sure I agree with, but they justify it in their FAQ. See the exchanges below in the comments with a few artists who have been dealing with them one way or another and make your own opinion...

A little while ago, I’ve received an email from the “Extreme Tour” to perform and take part in their worldwide tour, they said they were researching artists and came across my website… The irony of it is that, as I’ve said before, I don’t gig and have absolutely no intention to do so.

First, I’m a recording artist, and my pleasure is in writing, arranging, recording, producing, mixing in my studio. I’m a studio rat, and this will likely never change. Add to that the fact that since I’m performing all the instruments it would be a little bit difficult to do on stage. And quite frankly I’m not one to do simple acoustic/vocal tunes either. It’s just not my thing.

So, I was sorry to have to decline the opportunity, especially when I learned a bit more about what these people are doing. They propose to make the world a better place with indie music. I mean that is pretty great a goal and I’m all for it, really, so I decided that I would support them any way I could.I thought that it would be a good to write this blog post to point this out to other artists that could be interested.

The idea is that they create events all over the globe, inviting indie musicians to take part and perform. All the proceeds of these concerts go to help local communities and especially associations that aim to “reach at-risk and counter culture youth with services and resources that would assist them in making positive, as well as healthy, decisions for a successful life”. I’d say that a worthy cause.

As artists, you would not get paid for these concerts, but you would get “food and lodging provided for at each performance date”, and you can decide what dates and what places you can/want to go to. So as well as doing a good deed and not being out of your pocket for it, you could perhaps also find a new audience at these events!

So if anyone is interested, I suppose the best is for you to check the Extreme Tour web site - they have a FAQ page that should explain things better than I do, then you can apply online here or contact them via email for more information at  xtartistrelations@gmail.com

21 comments

  • Laughing With The Raindrops

    Laughing With The Raindrops London, UK

    Yes, they approached me. They have a three-tier system, the more famous you are the more they pay for your expenses. If you are totally unknown, you pay for your own travel expenses. You have to submit your music and then they decide if they want to take you on or not. AND for the privilege of submitting your music .....YOU PAY I quote 'a small fee of' $15!!! Did they mention that to you?

    Yes, they approached me. They have a three-tier system, the more famous you are the more they pay for your expenses. If you are totally unknown, you pay for your own travel expenses. You have to submit your music and then they decide if they want to take you on or not. AND for the privilege of submitting your music .....YOU PAY I quote 'a small fee of' $15!!! Did they mention that to you?

  • Ghostly Beard

    Ghostly Beard

    Hum, I wasn't aware of that, V. Sorry. I would never steer anyone to a "service" that asks to pay in advance for the privilege of being rejected. Thanks for telling me.

    Hum, I wasn't aware of that, V. Sorry. I would never steer anyone to a "service" that asks to pay in advance for the privilege of being rejected. Thanks for telling me.

  • Jacqueline Lademann

    Jacqueline Lademann Melbourne, Australia

    Don't be too hard on yourself. Scammers are everywhere. They prey on those of us who are honest and don't think like they do. They're bastards. We can only be so vigilant against them without becoming paranoid, we have to trust someone, so occasionally we get caught out. Their conduct does not reflect on you at all, only entirely on them. If anything you are as much a victim as the ones that try to scam. They are trading off your good reputation (and others like you) as someone respected in the indie community. Everyone that knows you, knows that you are genuine in your enthusiasm for indie music and artists.

    Don't be too hard on yourself. Scammers are everywhere. They prey on those of us who are honest and don't think like they do. They're bastards.

    We can only be so vigilant against them without becoming paranoid, we have to trust someone, so occasionally we get caught out. Their conduct does not reflect on you at all, only entirely on them. If anything you are as much a victim as the ones that try to scam. They are trading off your good reputation (and others like you) as someone respected in the indie community.

    Everyone that knows you, knows that you are genuine in your enthusiasm for indie music and artists.

  • Ghostly Beard

    Ghostly Beard

    Thanks for the vote of confidence, Jacqui! I don't feel too bad because I was genuinely duped by their appearances. I would have never promoted them here in any way otherwise!

    Thanks for the vote of confidence, Jacqui! I don't feel too bad because I was genuinely duped by their appearances. I would have never promoted them here in any way otherwise!

  • Pete

    Pete Tennessee

    Hey, saw this post. I have to admit, I am not familiar with the Ghostly Beard before this. For what it's worth: I am very familiar with Extreme Tour as i actually went on it with my band. I need to point out that I found the Extreme Tour is exactly what they say they are. A community of artist volunteers around the world that put on free charitable community shows meant to bring people together. Their staff and leaders didn't get paid anything to do this, and they have a relatively small amount of applicants each year (less than a thousand, I think.) I doubt the fees to apply do much more than pay the power bill or something. They offer support for all the artists. I saw that myself. They provided most food and all the lodging throughout. They helped some bands with gas based on need I think. I asked about the tiers and they explained that tier one was artists that don't travel with the tour. They give them food only, no lodging. Tier two (which we were) gets food, lodging, some travel aid in certain cases, tier three gets food, lodging, travel and they said tier three artists are pretty rare. They didn't charge a door or admission when i was with them, they don't charge the agencies they work with in the places they go, they don't charge buy ons. They don't sell merch. Actually, I know on our leg, the staff and leaders gave a lot personally to see the events happen. I didn't see how they were taking anything from anyone, much less being a "scam". I guess other artists get upset that they charge an application fee, but I am used to that with music xray, taxi, sonicbids, even some venues and promoters charging pay to play. I didn't feel like xtreme tour was like that at all. Seemed like good people trying to help churches, schools, and community groups help people. I didn't mean to butt in here, but I saw this and thought I should say what I saw. Just my two cents.

    Hey, saw this post. I have to admit, I am not familiar with the Ghostly Beard before this. For what it's worth: I am very familiar with Extreme Tour as i actually went on it with my band. I need to point out that I found the Extreme Tour is exactly what they say they are. A community of artist volunteers around the world that put on free charitable community shows meant to bring people together. Their staff and leaders didn't get paid anything to do this, and they have a relatively small amount of applicants each year (less than a thousand, I think.) I doubt the fees to apply do much more than pay the power bill or something. They offer support for all the artists. I saw that myself. They provided most food and all the lodging throughout. They helped some bands with gas based on need I think. I asked about the tiers and they explained that tier one was artists that don't travel with the tour. They give them food only, no lodging. Tier two (which we were) gets food, lodging, some travel aid in certain cases, tier three gets food, lodging, travel and they said tier three artists are pretty rare. They didn't charge a door or admission when i was with them, they don't charge the agencies they work with in the places they go, they don't charge buy ons. They don't sell merch. Actually, I know on our leg, the staff and leaders gave a lot personally to see the events happen. I didn't see how they were taking anything from anyone, much less being a "scam". I guess other artists get upset that they charge an application fee, but I am used to that with music xray, taxi, sonicbids, even some venues and promoters charging pay to play. I didn't feel like xtreme tour was like that at all. Seemed like good people trying to help churches, schools, and community groups help people. I didn't mean to butt in here, but I saw this and thought I should say what I saw. Just my two cents.

  • Ghostly Beard

    Ghostly Beard

    Hi Pete! Thanks for visiting and your comments. I'm glad to hear you've had a good experience with this. It looks like it's not been the case for everyone, and I must say that I don't like the sound of "pay for the privilege of getting an audition", I think they should stop that. Of course some services do that, but at least you know what to expect from the get go. I don't like to hear that artists are supposed to pay when there's nothing in their FAQ that states that fact. This at least, is no right.

    Hi Pete! Thanks for visiting and your comments. I'm glad to hear you've had a good experience with this.
    It looks like it's not been the case for everyone, and I must say that I don't like the sound of "pay for the privilege of getting an audition", I think they should stop that. Of course some services do that, but at least you know what to expect from the get go. I don't like to hear that artists are supposed to pay when there's nothing in their FAQ that states that fact. This at least, is no right.

  • Pete

    Pete Tennessee

    I totally understand. I alerted the founder of the organization to the questions on this site. I suspect he may reach out to you. I know him a little bit personally now. I don't know if you have taken a look at their description of their application process that is posted on their website, but I believe there is an FAQ question and answer about the application fee, and why they charge it. If there isn't, I know it's in the artist FAQ that an artist normally gets when they are being invited to apply. I know we got one. They definitely aren't hiding it. Although, it looks like they need to do something to try to make it a little more clear. Again,for what it's worth, I am positive they are not a pay to play. Besides the application fee, there are no other fees for selected artists. They didn't take any of our merch sales, either. (Not that they should, of course.) Also, I know that they do not get paid themselves. So i guess they're practicing what they preach. I guess I said that already, though. The reason I felt like I needed to comment on your forum, is that I thought that maybe some artists would read your warning as a confirmation that they are shady. I don't think you were exactly saying that. But it could be read that way. As an artist that experienced what they do, I felt it was important to try to correct any misunderstanding and share my experiences. What they are doing is a good thing. I am glad I was involved. A lot of artists I was out with are. The negative things that you sometimes hear about their organization often seem to be written by people that did not actually go on the tour itself. They just seem to be upset that they were not selected. Or at least that's most of what I've seen. Granted, not everybody is going to be into what they do. These are charity events in rough neighborhoods sometimes. Some of them are large, but some of them, that we experienced, are rather small. It may be hard for an artist that may primarily be concerned about how many people they are playing in front of, or with merch sales, to really appreciate the value of participating in something like this. Like anything, it may not be for everybody. I don't want to say it would be. I just wanted to bring a little balance. Thank you for letting me share what I saw.

    I totally understand. I alerted the founder of the organization to the questions on this site. I suspect he may reach out to you. I know him a little bit personally now. I don't know if you have taken a look at their description of their application process that is posted on their website, but I believe there is an FAQ question and answer about the application fee, and why they charge it. If there isn't, I know it's in the artist FAQ that an artist normally gets when they are being invited to apply. I know we got one. They definitely aren't hiding it. Although, it looks like they need to do something to try to make it a little more clear.

    Again,for what it's worth, I am positive they are not a pay to play. Besides the application fee, there are no other fees for selected artists. They didn't take any of our merch sales, either. (Not that they should, of course.) Also, I know that they do not get paid themselves. So i guess they're practicing what they preach. I guess I said that already, though.

    The reason I felt like I needed to comment on your forum, is that I thought that maybe some artists would read your warning as a confirmation that they are shady. I don't think you were exactly saying that. But it could be read that way. As an artist that experienced what they do, I felt it was important to try to correct any misunderstanding and share my experiences. What they are doing is a good thing. I am glad I was involved. A lot of artists I was out with are. The negative things that you sometimes hear about their organization often seem to be written by people that did not actually go on the tour itself. They just seem to be upset that they were not selected. Or at least that's most of what I've seen.

    Granted, not everybody is going to be into what they do. These are charity events in rough neighborhoods sometimes. Some of them are large, but some of them, that we experienced, are rather small. It may be hard for an artist that may primarily be concerned about how many people they are playing in front of, or with merch sales, to really appreciate the value of participating in something like this. Like anything, it may not be for everybody. I don't want to say it would be. I just wanted to bring a little balance. Thank you for letting me share what I saw.

  • Pete

    Pete Tennessee

    Hey, just as a heads up: There IS a pretty good breakdown of the app fee, why they charge it, where it goes, etc located on there FAQ on their website. Worth a read. It made a lot of sense actually.

    Hey, just as a heads up: There IS a pretty good breakdown of the app fee, why they charge it, where it goes, etc located on there FAQ on their website. Worth a read. It made a lot of sense actually.

  • Ghostly Beard

    Ghostly Beard

    Thanks Pete! I went to check their website again and they indeed have updated it to make it clear. Pretty sure it was not the case before, nor in the email I've received from them at first... Glad they took steps to be more transparent! And thanks again for your testimony. I myself am pretty in favor of charity work, as my new album's sales are going to go to MusiCounts which is an organization here in Canada which is helping children get access to music and a musical education.

    Thanks Pete! I went to check their website again and they indeed have updated it to make it clear.
    Pretty sure it was not the case before, nor in the email I've received from them at first...
    Glad they took steps to be more transparent! And thanks again for your testimony.

    I myself am pretty in favor of charity work, as my new album's sales are going to go to MusiCounts which is an organization here in Canada which is helping children get access to music and a musical education.

  • Pete

    Pete Tennessee

    Yeah. I definitely like their new site. I know I saw the FAQ response before, but I think they sent it a couple emails in, when they were giving us the preferred applicant code which cuts the fee to just the admin portion. Oh well, at least they have it updated now. It's a small staff for such a large project.

    Yeah. I definitely like their new site. I know I saw the FAQ response before, but I think they sent it a couple emails in, when they were giving us the preferred applicant code which cuts the fee to just the admin portion. Oh well, at least they have it updated now. It's a small staff for such a large project.

  • Pete

    Pete Tennessee

    Thanks. You're pretty good about responding. Lol. That's cool about Musicounts. I've never heard of them. Are they in the States at all? By the way, may I respectfully suggest you reconsider your warning at the top of this post? I know you haven't had a personal experience with the extreme tour, but i did, and i can tell you they're not a scam. While i respect that not all artists agree with submission fees, I do know that this is a real organization doing real work. If an artist doesn't think a fee to apply is appropriate, they can always just ignore the opportunity. Your original description of the tour before you got negative feedback was dead on with my experience with them. I'd hate to think there were artists that would be interested in such an experience that would get the impression from your disclaimer that they were not real. That's why I posted on here originally. But I'm not sure many will read all the way down to this after reading your warning at the top.

    Thanks. You're pretty good about responding. Lol.

    That's cool about Musicounts. I've never heard of them. Are they in the States at all?

    By the way, may I respectfully suggest you reconsider your warning at the top of this post? I know you haven't had a personal experience with the extreme tour, but i did, and i can tell you they're not a scam. While i respect that not all artists agree with submission fees, I do know that this is a real organization doing real work. If an artist doesn't think a fee to apply is appropriate, they can always just ignore the opportunity.

    Your original description of the tour before you got negative feedback was dead on with my experience with them. I'd hate to think there were artists that would be interested in such an experience that would get the impression from your disclaimer that they were not real. That's why I posted on here originally. But I'm not sure many will read all the way down to this after reading your warning at the top.

  • Ghostly Beard

    Ghostly Beard

    MusiCounts is in Canada only, that I know of: https://www.musicounts.ca/ I have updated my warning, deciding that it was best for everyone to make up their own mind, since I've had no direct dealings with them. Thanks again for taking the time to visit and your testimony, it's well appreciated!

    MusiCounts is in Canada only, that I know of: https://www.musicounts.ca/

    I have updated my warning, deciding that it was best for everyone to make up their own mind, since I've had no direct dealings with them. Thanks again for taking the time to visit and your testimony, it's well appreciated!

  • Pete

    Pete Tennessee

    Thanks man. It has been a pleasure talking to you on this forum. I appreciate your attentiveness. I didn't know who you were before, but I wanna follow you now. Thanks again.

    Thanks man. It has been a pleasure talking to you on this forum. I appreciate your attentiveness. I didn't know who you were before, but I wanna follow you now. Thanks again.

  • Infinite Hive

    Infinite Hive Scotland

    Hey guys, I appreciate you putting this up, as "The Extreme Tour" just contacted me and I immediately started googling for info. Also, Ghostly Beard, I think we have exchanged tweets on #musichouruk on Twitter? :) Cheers Mr John Infinite Hive Music

    Hey guys,
    I appreciate you putting this up, as "The Extreme Tour" just contacted me and I immediately started googling for info. Also, Ghostly Beard, I think we have exchanged tweets on #musichouruk on Twitter?
    smile

    Cheers

    Mr John
    Infinite Hive Music

  • Ghostly Beard

    Ghostly Beard

    Hey John! Thanks for visiting! Glad this could be of help! It's quite possible that we have exchanged tweets during #MusicHourUK - I often participate :)

    Hey John! Thanks for visiting! Glad this could be of help! It's quite possible that we have exchanged tweets during #MusicHourUK - I often participate smile

  • Call Of The Awakened

    Call Of The Awakened Great Falls, Montana

    Hey guys, My band just got contacted by these guys, and you could understand our reservations at first because of the scammers out there that prey on young artists. So what Im gathering is this is legit? I just need to make sure because we are a sceptical bunch because of the scams that try to lure us in, and if we are told to pay $15 for an application fee the guy may not exactly be convinced ya knoknoW have been trying to set upna tour for a while, but if this works out and we have transportation covered then it might be worth it to us. On a side note, for the person who was involved in this tour, was march allowed to be sold and how was your overall experience? Thanks! -Nathan

    Hey guys,
    My band just got contacted by these guys, and you could understand our reservations at first because of the scammers out there that prey on young artists. So what Im gathering is this is legit? I just need to make sure because we are a sceptical bunch because of the scams that try to lure us in, and if we are told to pay $15 for an application fee the guy may not exactly be convinced ya knoknoW have been trying to set upna tour for a while, but if this works out and we have transportation covered then it might be worth it to us. On a side note, for the person who was involved in this tour, was march allowed to be sold and how was your overall experience? Thanks!
    -Nathan

  • Ghostly Beard

    Ghostly Beard

    Hey Nathan! Thanks for the visit. As I said in the post, I have had no direct experience of the tour, just been contacted and thought it was a cool idea, and then some people said that it was not so good of an opportunity, and like you I'm very wary of the "wonderful/too good to be true" scams, there are countless of these in my mailbox and on social media every day. But it looks like some bands have had a good experience with this, so it seems to be a case of YMMV... I would be asking them questions directly, in particular about transportation and accommodation, and see how straight forward their answers are... Good luck, and don't hesitate to tell us about your experience! Thanks!

    Hey Nathan! Thanks for the visit. As I said in the post, I have had no direct experience of the tour, just been contacted and thought it was a cool idea, and then some people said that it was not so good of an opportunity, and like you I'm very wary of the "wonderful/too good to be true" scams, there are countless of these in my mailbox and on social media every day. But it looks like some bands have had a good experience with this, so it seems to be a case of YMMV... I would be asking them questions directly, in particular about transportation and accommodation, and see how straight forward their answers are... Good luck, and don't hesitate to tell us about your experience! Thanks!

  • Pete

    Pete Tennessee

    Sorry for the long delay. I just saw this. Yeah, the artists sell merch at the events. The tour organization doesn't take anything from the merch sales or charge any fees like Warped Tour did. The sales definitely vary. Most of these events are community things. Attendance size varies. Often, they're held in needier areas. We did really well at some shows, not so well at others. On the flip side, though, we had some places where people flat out GAVE us money, as sort of "donations" because they appreciated us doing charity events like this. All in all, we definitely covered our expenses. Granted, we didn't get rich or anything. I think the Extreme tour is something to do for the experience, ro build connections in new areas, etc. Not necessarily for the money. But between what they provide in food, lodging, etc. and what you do get in merch sales or the occasional donation, you get things covered. That was my experience, anyway.

    Sorry for the long delay. I just saw this. Yeah, the artists sell merch at the events. The tour organization doesn't take anything from the merch sales or charge any fees like Warped Tour did. The sales definitely vary. Most of these events are community things. Attendance size varies. Often, they're held in needier areas. We did really well at some shows, not so well at others. On the flip side, though, we had some places where people flat out GAVE us money, as sort of "donations" because they appreciated us doing charity events like this. All in all, we definitely covered our expenses. Granted, we didn't get rich or anything. I think the Extreme tour is something to do for the experience, ro build connections in new areas, etc. Not necessarily for the money. But between what they provide in food, lodging, etc. and what you do get in merch sales or the occasional donation, you get things covered. That was my experience, anyway.

  • Ghostly Beard

    Ghostly Beard

    Hi Pete! Thanks a lot for posting your experience here. It's appreciated. I'm glad that it worked well for you and reassured about it. Thanks!

    Hi Pete! Thanks a lot for posting your experience here. It's appreciated.
    I'm glad that it worked well for you and reassured about it. Thanks!

  • Levi

    Levi Rochester

    So glad for this thread...The Extreme Tour just reached out to me as well and like others, I instantly Googled them to see if they were a hoax. Thanks Pete for sharing your experience, and Ghostly Beard for welcoming comments. I'm definitely going to look into it, especially since if you only want to play in your region you can do that. Thanks all.

    So glad for this thread...The Extreme Tour just reached out to me as well and like others, I instantly Googled them to see if they were a hoax. Thanks Pete for sharing your experience, and Ghostly Beard for welcoming comments. I'm definitely going to look into it, especially since if you only want to play in your region you can do that. Thanks all.

  • Ghostly Beard

    Ghostly Beard

    Hi Levi, thanks for visiting! It seems that people have had a positive experience and I left all the comments here so that people can form their own opinion... Let us know how it goes for you if you get a chance.!

    Hi Levi, thanks for visiting! It seems that people have had a positive experience and I left all the comments here so that people can form their own opinion...
    Let us know how it goes for you if you get a chance.!

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