The Extreme Tour

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WARNING: I haven't had any direct experience with these guys, except for a couple email exchanges. It looks like they are asking for a submission fee for an audition which I'm not sure I agree with, but they justify it in their FAQ. See the exchanges below in the comments with a few artists who have been dealing with them one way or another and make your own opinion...

A little while ago, I’ve received an email from the “Extreme Tour” to perform and take part in their worldwide tour, they said they were researching artists and came across my website… The irony of it is that, as I’ve said before, I don’t gig and have absolutely no intention to do so.

First, I’m a recording artist, and my pleasure is in writing, arranging, recording, producing, mixing in my studio. I’m a studio rat, and this will likely never change. Add to that the fact that since I’m performing all the instruments it would be a little bit difficult to do on stage. And quite frankly I’m not one to do simple acoustic/vocal tunes either. It’s just not my thing.

So, I was sorry to have to decline the opportunity, especially when I learned a bit more about what these people are doing. They propose to make the world a better place with indie music. I mean that is pretty great a goal and I’m all for it, really, so I decided that I would support them any way I could.I thought that it would be a good to write this blog post to point this out to other artists that could be interested.

The idea is that they create events all over the globe, inviting indie musicians to take part and perform. All the proceeds of these concerts go to help local communities and especially associations that aim to “reach at-risk and counter culture youth with services and resources that would assist them in making positive, as well as healthy, decisions for a successful life”. I’d say that a worthy cause.

As artists, you would not get paid for these concerts, but you would get “food and lodging provided for at each performance date”, and you can decide what dates and what places you can/want to go to. So as well as doing a good deed and not being out of your pocket for it, you could perhaps also find a new audience at these events!

So if anyone is interested, I suppose the best is for you to check the Extreme Tour web site - they have a FAQ page that should explain things better than I do, then you can apply online here or contact them via email for more information at  xtartistrelations@gmail.com

44 comments

  • Laughing With The Raindrops
    Laughing With The Raindrops London, UK
    Yes, they approached me. They have a three-tier system, the more famous you are the more they pay for your expenses. If you are totally unknown, you pay for your own travel expenses. You have to submit your music and then they decide if they want to take you on or not. AND for the privilege of submitting your music .....YOU PAY I quote 'a small fee of' $15!!! Did they mention that to you?

    Yes, they approached me. They have a three-tier system, the more famous you are the more they pay for your expenses. If you are totally unknown, you pay for your own travel expenses. You have to submit your music and then they decide if they want to take you on or not. AND for the privilege of submitting your music .....YOU PAY I quote 'a small fee of' $15!!! Did they mention that to you?

  • Ghostly Beard
    Ghostly Beard
    Hum, I wasn't aware of that, V. Sorry. I would never steer anyone to a "service" that asks to pay in advance for the privilege of being rejected. Thanks for telling me.

    Hum, I wasn't aware of that, V. Sorry. I would never steer anyone to a "service" that asks to pay in advance for the privilege of being rejected. Thanks for telling me.

  • Jacqueline Lademann
    Jacqueline Lademann Melbourne, Australia
    Don't be too hard on yourself. Scammers are everywhere. They prey on those of us who are honest and don't think like they do. They're bastards. We can only be so vigilant against them without becoming paranoid, we have to trust someone, so occasionally we get caught out. Their conduct does not reflect on you at all, only entirely on them. If anything you are as much a victim as the ones that try to scam. They are trading off your good reputation (and others like you) as someone respected in the indie community. Everyone that knows you, knows that you are genuine in your enthusiasm for indie music and artists.

    Don't be too hard on yourself. Scammers are everywhere. They prey on those of us who are honest and don't think like they do. They're bastards.

    We can only be so vigilant against them without becoming paranoid, we have to trust someone, so occasionally we get caught out. Their conduct does not reflect on you at all, only entirely on them. If anything you are as much a victim as the ones that try to scam. They are trading off your good reputation (and others like you) as someone respected in the indie community.

    Everyone that knows you, knows that you are genuine in your enthusiasm for indie music and artists.

  • Ghostly Beard
    Ghostly Beard
    Thanks for the vote of confidence, Jacqui! I don't feel too bad because I was genuinely duped by their appearances. I would have never promoted them here in any way otherwise!

    Thanks for the vote of confidence, Jacqui! I don't feel too bad because I was genuinely duped by their appearances. I would have never promoted them here in any way otherwise!

  • Pete
    Pete Tennessee
    Hey, saw this post. I have to admit, I am not familiar with the Ghostly Beard before this. For what it's worth: I am very familiar with Extreme Tour as i actually went on it with my band. I need to point out that I found the Extreme Tour is exactly what they say they are. A community of artist volunteers around the world that put on free charitable community shows meant to bring people together. Their staff and leaders didn't get paid anything to do this, and they have a relatively small amount of applicants each year (less than a thousand, I think.) I doubt the fees to apply do much more than pay the power bill or something. They offer support for all the artists. I saw that myself. They provided most food and all the lodging throughout. They helped some bands with gas based on need I think. I asked about the tiers and they explained that tier one was artists that don't travel with the tour. They give them food only, no lodging. Tier two (which we were) gets food, lodging, some travel aid in certain cases, tier three gets food, lodging, travel and they said tier three artists are pretty rare. They didn't charge a door or admission when i was with them, they don't charge the agencies they work with in the places they go, they don't charge buy ons. They don't sell merch. Actually, I know on our leg, the staff and leaders gave a lot personally to see the events happen. I didn't see how they were taking anything from anyone, much less being a "scam". I guess other artists get upset that they charge an application fee, but I am used to that with music xray, taxi, sonicbids, even some venues and promoters charging pay to play. I didn't feel like xtreme tour was like that at all. Seemed like good people trying to help churches, schools, and community groups help people. I didn't mean to butt in here, but I saw this and thought I should say what I saw. Just my two cents.

    Hey, saw this post. I have to admit, I am not familiar with the Ghostly Beard before this. For what it's worth: I am very familiar with Extreme Tour as i actually went on it with my band. I need to point out that I found the Extreme Tour is exactly what they say they are. A community of artist volunteers around the world that put on free charitable community shows meant to bring people together. Their staff and leaders didn't get paid anything to do this, and they have a relatively small amount of applicants each year (less than a thousand, I think.) I doubt the fees to apply do much more than pay the power bill or something. They offer support for all the artists. I saw that myself. They provided most food and all the lodging throughout. They helped some bands with gas based on need I think. I asked about the tiers and they explained that tier one was artists that don't travel with the tour. They give them food only, no lodging. Tier two (which we were) gets food, lodging, some travel aid in certain cases, tier three gets food, lodging, travel and they said tier three artists are pretty rare. They didn't charge a door or admission when i was with them, they don't charge the agencies they work with in the places they go, they don't charge buy ons. They don't sell merch. Actually, I know on our leg, the staff and leaders gave a lot personally to see the events happen. I didn't see how they were taking anything from anyone, much less being a "scam". I guess other artists get upset that they charge an application fee, but I am used to that with music xray, taxi, sonicbids, even some venues and promoters charging pay to play. I didn't feel like xtreme tour was like that at all. Seemed like good people trying to help churches, schools, and community groups help people. I didn't mean to butt in here, but I saw this and thought I should say what I saw. Just my two cents.

  • Ghostly Beard
    Ghostly Beard
    Hi Pete! Thanks for visiting and your comments. I'm glad to hear you've had a good experience with this. It looks like it's not been the case for everyone, and I must say that I don't like the sound of "pay for the privilege of getting an audition", I think they should stop that. Of course some services do that, but at least you know what to expect from the get go. I don't like to hear that artists are supposed to pay when there's nothing in their FAQ that states that fact. This at least, is no right.

    Hi Pete! Thanks for visiting and your comments. I'm glad to hear you've had a good experience with this.
    It looks like it's not been the case for everyone, and I must say that I don't like the sound of "pay for the privilege of getting an audition", I think they should stop that. Of course some services do that, but at least you know what to expect from the get go. I don't like to hear that artists are supposed to pay when there's nothing in their FAQ that states that fact. This at least, is no right.

  • Pete
    Pete Tennessee
    I totally understand. I alerted the founder of the organization to the questions on this site. I suspect he may reach out to you. I know him a little bit personally now. I don't know if you have taken a look at their description of their application process that is posted on their website, but I believe there is an FAQ question and answer about the application fee, and why they charge it. If there isn't, I know it's in the artist FAQ that an artist normally gets when they are being invited to apply. I know we got one. They definitely aren't hiding it. Although, it looks like they need to do something to try to make it a little more clear. Again,for what it's worth, I am positive they are not a pay to play. Besides the application fee, there are no other fees for selected artists. They didn't take any of our merch sales, either. (Not that they should, of course.) Also, I know that they do not get paid themselves. So i guess they're practicing what they preach. I guess I said that already, though. The reason I felt like I needed to comment on your forum, is that I thought that maybe some artists would read your warning as a confirmation that they are shady. I don't think you were exactly saying that. But it could be read that way. As an artist that experienced what they do, I felt it was important to try to correct any misunderstanding and share my experiences. What they are doing is a good thing. I am glad I was involved. A lot of artists I was out with are. The negative things that you sometimes hear about their organization often seem to be written by people that did not actually go on the tour itself. They just seem to be upset that they were not selected. Or at least that's most of what I've seen. Granted, not everybody is going to be into what they do. These are charity events in rough neighborhoods sometimes. Some of them are large, but some of them, that we experienced, are rather small. It may be hard for an artist that may primarily be concerned about how many people they are playing in front of, or with merch sales, to really appreciate the value of participating in something like this. Like anything, it may not be for everybody. I don't want to say it would be. I just wanted to bring a little balance. Thank you for letting me share what I saw.

    I totally understand. I alerted the founder of the organization to the questions on this site. I suspect he may reach out to you. I know him a little bit personally now. I don't know if you have taken a look at their description of their application process that is posted on their website, but I believe there is an FAQ question and answer about the application fee, and why they charge it. If there isn't, I know it's in the artist FAQ that an artist normally gets when they are being invited to apply. I know we got one. They definitely aren't hiding it. Although, it looks like they need to do something to try to make it a little more clear.

    Again,for what it's worth, I am positive they are not a pay to play. Besides the application fee, there are no other fees for selected artists. They didn't take any of our merch sales, either. (Not that they should, of course.) Also, I know that they do not get paid themselves. So i guess they're practicing what they preach. I guess I said that already, though.

    The reason I felt like I needed to comment on your forum, is that I thought that maybe some artists would read your warning as a confirmation that they are shady. I don't think you were exactly saying that. But it could be read that way. As an artist that experienced what they do, I felt it was important to try to correct any misunderstanding and share my experiences. What they are doing is a good thing. I am glad I was involved. A lot of artists I was out with are. The negative things that you sometimes hear about their organization often seem to be written by people that did not actually go on the tour itself. They just seem to be upset that they were not selected. Or at least that's most of what I've seen.

    Granted, not everybody is going to be into what they do. These are charity events in rough neighborhoods sometimes. Some of them are large, but some of them, that we experienced, are rather small. It may be hard for an artist that may primarily be concerned about how many people they are playing in front of, or with merch sales, to really appreciate the value of participating in something like this. Like anything, it may not be for everybody. I don't want to say it would be. I just wanted to bring a little balance. Thank you for letting me share what I saw.

  • Pete
    Pete Tennessee
    Hey, just as a heads up: There IS a pretty good breakdown of the app fee, why they charge it, where it goes, etc located on there FAQ on their website. Worth a read. It made a lot of sense actually.

    Hey, just as a heads up: There IS a pretty good breakdown of the app fee, why they charge it, where it goes, etc located on there FAQ on their website. Worth a read. It made a lot of sense actually.

  • Ghostly Beard
    Ghostly Beard
    Thanks Pete! I went to check their website again and they indeed have updated it to make it clear. Pretty sure it was not the case before, nor in the email I've received from them at first... Glad they took steps to be more transparent! And thanks again for your testimony. I myself am pretty in favor of charity work, as my new album's sales are going to go to MusiCounts which is an organization here in Canada which is helping children get access to music and a musical education.

    Thanks Pete! I went to check their website again and they indeed have updated it to make it clear.
    Pretty sure it was not the case before, nor in the email I've received from them at first...
    Glad they took steps to be more transparent! And thanks again for your testimony.

    I myself am pretty in favor of charity work, as my new album's sales are going to go to MusiCounts which is an organization here in Canada which is helping children get access to music and a musical education.

  • Pete
    Pete Tennessee
    Yeah. I definitely like their new site. I know I saw the FAQ response before, but I think they sent it a couple emails in, when they were giving us the preferred applicant code which cuts the fee to just the admin portion. Oh well, at least they have it updated now. It's a small staff for such a large project.

    Yeah. I definitely like their new site. I know I saw the FAQ response before, but I think they sent it a couple emails in, when they were giving us the preferred applicant code which cuts the fee to just the admin portion. Oh well, at least they have it updated now. It's a small staff for such a large project.

  • Pete
    Pete Tennessee
    Thanks. You're pretty good about responding. Lol. That's cool about Musicounts. I've never heard of them. Are they in the States at all? By the way, may I respectfully suggest you reconsider your warning at the top of this post? I know you haven't had a personal experience with the extreme tour, but i did, and i can tell you they're not a scam. While i respect that not all artists agree with submission fees, I do know that this is a real organization doing real work. If an artist doesn't think a fee to apply is appropriate, they can always just ignore the opportunity. Your original description of the tour before you got negative feedback was dead on with my experience with them. I'd hate to think there were artists that would be interested in such an experience that would get the impression from your disclaimer that they were not real. That's why I posted on here originally. But I'm not sure many will read all the way down to this after reading your warning at the top.

    Thanks. You're pretty good about responding. Lol.

    That's cool about Musicounts. I've never heard of them. Are they in the States at all?

    By the way, may I respectfully suggest you reconsider your warning at the top of this post? I know you haven't had a personal experience with the extreme tour, but i did, and i can tell you they're not a scam. While i respect that not all artists agree with submission fees, I do know that this is a real organization doing real work. If an artist doesn't think a fee to apply is appropriate, they can always just ignore the opportunity.

    Your original description of the tour before you got negative feedback was dead on with my experience with them. I'd hate to think there were artists that would be interested in such an experience that would get the impression from your disclaimer that they were not real. That's why I posted on here originally. But I'm not sure many will read all the way down to this after reading your warning at the top.

  • Ghostly Beard
    Ghostly Beard
    MusiCounts is in Canada only, that I know of: https://www.musicounts.ca/ I have updated my warning, deciding that it was best for everyone to make up their own mind, since I've had no direct dealings with them. Thanks again for taking the time to visit and your testimony, it's well appreciated!

    MusiCounts is in Canada only, that I know of: https://www.musicounts.ca/

    I have updated my warning, deciding that it was best for everyone to make up their own mind, since I've had no direct dealings with them. Thanks again for taking the time to visit and your testimony, it's well appreciated!

  • Pete
    Pete Tennessee
    Thanks man. It has been a pleasure talking to you on this forum. I appreciate your attentiveness. I didn't know who you were before, but I wanna follow you now. Thanks again.

    Thanks man. It has been a pleasure talking to you on this forum. I appreciate your attentiveness. I didn't know who you were before, but I wanna follow you now. Thanks again.

  • Infinite Hive
    Infinite Hive Scotland
    Hey guys, I appreciate you putting this up, as "The Extreme Tour" just contacted me and I immediately started googling for info. Also, Ghostly Beard, I think we have exchanged tweets on #musichouruk on Twitter? :) Cheers Mr John Infinite Hive Music

    Hey guys,
    I appreciate you putting this up, as "The Extreme Tour" just contacted me and I immediately started googling for info. Also, Ghostly Beard, I think we have exchanged tweets on #musichouruk on Twitter?
    smile

    Cheers

    Mr John
    Infinite Hive Music

  • Ghostly Beard
    Ghostly Beard
    Hey John! Thanks for visiting! Glad this could be of help! It's quite possible that we have exchanged tweets during #MusicHourUK - I often participate :)

    Hey John! Thanks for visiting! Glad this could be of help! It's quite possible that we have exchanged tweets during #MusicHourUK - I often participate smile

  • Call Of The Awakened
    Call Of The Awakened Great Falls, Montana
    Hey guys, My band just got contacted by these guys, and you could understand our reservations at first because of the scammers out there that prey on young artists. So what Im gathering is this is legit? I just need to make sure because we are a sceptical bunch because of the scams that try to lure us in, and if we are told to pay $15 for an application fee the guy may not exactly be convinced ya knoknoW have been trying to set upna tour for a while, but if this works out and we have transportation covered then it might be worth it to us. On a side note, for the person who was involved in this tour, was march allowed to be sold and how was your overall experience? Thanks! -Nathan

    Hey guys,
    My band just got contacted by these guys, and you could understand our reservations at first because of the scammers out there that prey on young artists. So what Im gathering is this is legit? I just need to make sure because we are a sceptical bunch because of the scams that try to lure us in, and if we are told to pay $15 for an application fee the guy may not exactly be convinced ya knoknoW have been trying to set upna tour for a while, but if this works out and we have transportation covered then it might be worth it to us. On a side note, for the person who was involved in this tour, was march allowed to be sold and how was your overall experience? Thanks!
    -Nathan

  • Ghostly Beard
    Ghostly Beard
    Hey Nathan! Thanks for the visit. As I said in the post, I have had no direct experience of the tour, just been contacted and thought it was a cool idea, and then some people said that it was not so good of an opportunity, and like you I'm very wary of the "wonderful/too good to be true" scams, there are countless of these in my mailbox and on social media every day. But it looks like some bands have had a good experience with this, so it seems to be a case of YMMV... I would be asking them questions directly, in particular about transportation and accommodation, and see how straight forward their answers are... Good luck, and don't hesitate to tell us about your experience! Thanks!

    Hey Nathan! Thanks for the visit. As I said in the post, I have had no direct experience of the tour, just been contacted and thought it was a cool idea, and then some people said that it was not so good of an opportunity, and like you I'm very wary of the "wonderful/too good to be true" scams, there are countless of these in my mailbox and on social media every day. But it looks like some bands have had a good experience with this, so it seems to be a case of YMMV... I would be asking them questions directly, in particular about transportation and accommodation, and see how straight forward their answers are... Good luck, and don't hesitate to tell us about your experience! Thanks!

  • Pete
    Pete Tennessee
    Sorry for the long delay. I just saw this. Yeah, the artists sell merch at the events. The tour organization doesn't take anything from the merch sales or charge any fees like Warped Tour did. The sales definitely vary. Most of these events are community things. Attendance size varies. Often, they're held in needier areas. We did really well at some shows, not so well at others. On the flip side, though, we had some places where people flat out GAVE us money, as sort of "donations" because they appreciated us doing charity events like this. All in all, we definitely covered our expenses. Granted, we didn't get rich or anything. I think the Extreme tour is something to do for the experience, ro build connections in new areas, etc. Not necessarily for the money. But between what they provide in food, lodging, etc. and what you do get in merch sales or the occasional donation, you get things covered. That was my experience, anyway.

    Sorry for the long delay. I just saw this. Yeah, the artists sell merch at the events. The tour organization doesn't take anything from the merch sales or charge any fees like Warped Tour did. The sales definitely vary. Most of these events are community things. Attendance size varies. Often, they're held in needier areas. We did really well at some shows, not so well at others. On the flip side, though, we had some places where people flat out GAVE us money, as sort of "donations" because they appreciated us doing charity events like this. All in all, we definitely covered our expenses. Granted, we didn't get rich or anything. I think the Extreme tour is something to do for the experience, ro build connections in new areas, etc. Not necessarily for the money. But between what they provide in food, lodging, etc. and what you do get in merch sales or the occasional donation, you get things covered. That was my experience, anyway.

  • Ghostly Beard
    Ghostly Beard
    Hi Pete! Thanks a lot for posting your experience here. It's appreciated. I'm glad that it worked well for you and reassured about it. Thanks!

    Hi Pete! Thanks a lot for posting your experience here. It's appreciated.
    I'm glad that it worked well for you and reassured about it. Thanks!

  • Levi
    Levi Rochester
    So glad for this thread...The Extreme Tour just reached out to me as well and like others, I instantly Googled them to see if they were a hoax. Thanks Pete for sharing your experience, and Ghostly Beard for welcoming comments. I'm definitely going to look into it, especially since if you only want to play in your region you can do that. Thanks all.

    So glad for this thread...The Extreme Tour just reached out to me as well and like others, I instantly Googled them to see if they were a hoax. Thanks Pete for sharing your experience, and Ghostly Beard for welcoming comments. I'm definitely going to look into it, especially since if you only want to play in your region you can do that. Thanks all.

  • Ghostly Beard
    Ghostly Beard
    Hi Levi, thanks for visiting! It seems that people have had a positive experience and I left all the comments here so that people can form their own opinion... Let us know how it goes for you if you get a chance.!

    Hi Levi, thanks for visiting! It seems that people have had a positive experience and I left all the comments here so that people can form their own opinion...
    Let us know how it goes for you if you get a chance.!

  • Simerly
    Simerly TN
    They just contacted me to be a selected artist for the 2020 tour...this information was very helpful in helping me make my decision...thank you for the input...especially the positive! Keep rocking!

    They just contacted me to be a selected artist for the 2020 tour...this information was very helpful in helping me make my decision...thank you for the input...especially the positive! Keep rocking!

  • TIMME
    TIMME TAMPA
    PETE, ALL MY QUESTIONS ARE FOR YOU..... ARE THERE MANY HIP HOP ACTS ON THE TOUR? WHAT KIND OF PLACES DID THEY LODGE YOU AT? WHAT KIND OF FOOD DID THEY FEED YOU ALL? GUESTIMATE OF IN POCKET FOR BAND ONCE TOUR WAS OVER? (INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO MERCH, DONATIONS, ALBUM SALES, FOLLOWING, ETC......

    PETE, ALL MY QUESTIONS ARE FOR YOU.....

    ARE THERE MANY HIP HOP ACTS ON THE TOUR?

    WHAT KIND OF PLACES DID THEY LODGE YOU AT?

    WHAT KIND OF FOOD DID THEY FEED YOU ALL?

    GUESTIMATE OF IN POCKET FOR BAND ONCE TOUR WAS OVER? (INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO MERCH, DONATIONS, ALBUM SALES, FOLLOWING, ETC......

  • Athyia
    Athyia Trinidad
    Hi guys! First of all I'd like to say thanks to the owner of the post. I was contacted by the tour organizers as well. I really wanted to add a different perspective. As far as I've gotten in the process they are offering to waive some fees allowing you to pay just the application fee. I have no problems with that. As a musician you should be used to having to invest for your craft. What is a bit shady is that you can be rejected even after paying. Remember I didn't see this opportunity myself, wanting desperately to be a part of it. You ask if artists want the opportunity to help others. Which giver would say no to that. Charging an application fee for a chance to be chosen, which by the way is not stated up front (this is the first I'm hearing of it) does make this pay to play, no matter the benefits afterward. By not informing artists beforehand of application rejection, you rob them of the right to decide what is acceptable loss. If it's all about the people and the artists why are refunds not being administered if it's decided you won't participate. If this is an oversight the process needs to changed and fees should not be charged until after approval. If I'm in this to help and I'll be with you, why would I not put out money to ensure the event's success. Taking that investment and withholding facts is a no no. Imagine there are thousands of applicants paying this $15 fee. 50 000 applicants means $550 000 in fees was collected. That's over half a million dollars. If only a few are chosen, are not the rejected funding this event? Are they not the ones who allow this tour to remain completely free for the chosen few. I certainly wouldn't have been happy to be told I'm wanted at this event. That they are specially requesting me so no need to pay anything but the application fee, only to get an email saying they reviewed my submitted music and my application was rejected. I'm not saying it's a scam but I certainly don't want to be involved in something like that. I'm a testy person and the minute I think people aren't being honest or transparent I'm gone. Thank you again so much to ghostly beard for helping me to make an informed decision. I won't be taking part in this event but all the best to anyone that does.

    Hi guys! First of all I'd like to say thanks to the owner of the post. I was contacted by the tour organizers as well. I really wanted to add a different perspective.

    As far as I've gotten in the process they are offering to waive some fees allowing you to pay just the application fee. I have no problems with that. As a musician you should be used to having to invest for your craft.

    What is a bit shady is that you can be rejected even after paying. Remember I didn't see this opportunity myself, wanting desperately to be a part of it. You ask if artists want the opportunity to help others. Which giver would say no to that. Charging an application fee for a chance to be chosen, which by the way is not stated up front (this is the first I'm hearing of it) does make this pay to play, no matter the benefits afterward.

    By not informing artists beforehand of application rejection, you rob them of the right to decide what is acceptable loss. If it's all about the people and the artists why are refunds not being administered if it's decided you won't participate. If this is an oversight the process needs to changed and fees should not be charged until after approval. If I'm in this to help and I'll be with you, why would I not put out money to ensure the event's success. Taking that investment and withholding facts is a no no.

    Imagine there are thousands of applicants paying this $15 fee. 50 000 applicants means $550 000 in fees was collected. That's over half a million dollars. If only a few are chosen, are not the rejected funding this event? Are they not the ones who allow this tour to remain completely free for the chosen few.

    I certainly wouldn't have been happy to be told I'm wanted at this event. That they are specially requesting me so no need to pay anything but the application fee, only to get an email saying they reviewed my submitted music and my application was rejected.

    I'm not saying it's a scam but I certainly don't want to be involved in something like that. I'm a testy person and the minute I think people aren't being honest or transparent I'm gone.

    Thank you again so much to ghostly beard for helping me to make an informed decision. I won't be taking part in this event but all the best to anyone that does.

  • Amy & Adams
    Amy & Adams St Paul
    Paid the app fee, which is now $25. And was called a donation on my receipt. Have had several email communications. My hoax radar is up. But we’ve supposedly gotten a jump up the ladder by one of their affirming agents. We got an email today to say that and an invitation to attend a 3 day observational event and meet & greet, and industry promo event with industry guiding lights in Nashville in May. $195 each for me and my wife, that must be paid by mid March. We sent RSVPs to hold our place. No $$$. We are willing too ride this and ask the questions and only settle for straight answers. Before sending another penny. Doing research I found you all. Happy New Year!

    Paid the app fee, which is now $25. And was called a donation on my receipt. Have had several email communications. My hoax radar is up. But we’ve supposedly gotten a jump up the ladder by one of their affirming agents. We got an email today to say that and an invitation to attend a 3 day observational event and meet & greet, and industry promo event with industry guiding lights in Nashville in May. $195 each for me and my wife, that must be paid by mid March. We sent RSVPs to hold our place. No $$$. We are willing too ride this and ask the questions and only settle for straight answers. Before sending another penny. Doing research I found you all. Happy New Year!

  • Ghostly Beard
    Ghostly Beard
    Thanks Athya and Amy & Adams for your comments! I must say I'm not a fan of paying for the "potential" right to be selected, I think they should stop that practice which sounds too much like a "pay for others to be selected" scheme, and indeed this could potentially amount to a lot of money taken from aspiring artists. As to the $195 for the "observational event and meet & greet", this, I suppose, is not even taking transport into account, so it sounds like you are right to stand your ground and ask what it entails exactly, before sending any more money. Let us know how it goes in any case, thanks!

    Thanks Athya and Amy & Adams for your comments!
    I must say I'm not a fan of paying for the "potential" right to be selected, I think they should stop that practice which sounds too much like a "pay for others to be selected" scheme, and indeed this could potentially amount to a lot of money taken from aspiring artists.
    As to the $195 for the "observational event and meet & greet", this, I suppose, is not even taking transport into account, so it sounds like you are right to stand your ground and ask what it entails exactly, before sending any more money. Let us know how it goes in any case, thanks!

  • Patrick
    Patrick Boston
    Hey! I've also been contacted and invited to the Objective Sessions in Nashville. I also happen to have met someone thru another musical channel that has done lots of work with this tour! This guy is a supersuper nice, really smart, down-to-earth dood. We spoke briefly about the tour and I had I have no problem believing his PoV. This isn't a tour where you're playing to thousands of people every nite, but it does seem to be ran by some very solid, faith-based folk and looks to be trying to do some good in under-served communities. Hope this helps--maybe I'll see you in Nashville :D Here's to some pre-networking networking www.deadmess.com www.revivalhouserecords.com Thanks Ghostly for hosting the conversation!

    Hey! I've also been contacted and invited to the Objective Sessions in Nashville. I also happen to have met someone thru another musical channel that has done lots of work with this tour! This guy is a supersuper nice, really smart, down-to-earth dood. We spoke briefly about the tour and I had I have no problem believing his PoV. This isn't a tour where you're playing to thousands of people every nite, but it does seem to be ran by some very solid, faith-based folk and looks to be trying to do some good in under-served communities.

    Hope this helps--maybe I'll see you in Nashville biggrin Here's to some pre-networking networking www.deadmess.com www.revivalhouserecords.com Thanks Ghostly for hosting the conversation!

  • Ghostly Beard
    Ghostly Beard
    Thanks for your comment, Patrick! I'm afraid I cannot afford to go to Nashville :( but I hope you'll have a nice time. If you get a minute, please report back so that more know how it works. Thanks!

    Thanks for your comment, Patrick! I'm afraid I cannot afford to go to Nashville frown but I hope you'll have a nice time. If you get a minute, please report back so that more know how it works. Thanks!

  • Cora
    Cora England
    I have been approached and the fee was waived for my application. I am still trying to deside whether or not I am going to accept. I need to look into things a little more. I have worked for the Salvation Army which is one of the agencies that work with them and as far as I can see they are about spreading love. Maybe I am wrong, but as I said, I am going to look into things a little more and then decide as to whether or not I accept. Reading the various comments on this feed has helped me and will also help me when I make my final decision.

    I have been approached and the fee was waived for my application. I am still trying to deside whether or not I am going to accept. I need to look into things a little more. I have worked for the Salvation Army which is one of the agencies that work with them and as far as I can see they are about spreading love. Maybe I am wrong, but as I said, I am going to look into things a little more and then decide as to whether or not I accept. Reading the various comments on this feed has helped me and will also help me when I make my final decision.

  • Ghostly Beard
    Ghostly Beard
    Thanks for the visit and your comment, Cora! Good to know the discussion here could have helped in your decision. Let us know how it goes in any case. Thanks!

    Thanks for the visit and your comment, Cora! Good to know the discussion here could have helped in your decision. Let us know how it goes in any case. Thanks!

  • Morgan
    Morgan Nashville
    Hey, y’all! I’ve loved hearing from everyone here. I was just contacted today. I thought it could’ve been a scam at first; it just sounded too nice. It’s been good reading all the input from everyone. Great insights. Thank you!

    Hey, y’all! I’ve loved hearing from everyone here. I was just contacted today. I thought it could’ve been a scam at first; it just sounded too nice. It’s been good reading all the input from everyone. Great insights. Thank you!

  • Ghostly Beard
    Ghostly Beard
    Thanks for the visit and comment, Morgan! It's nice to hear the discussion here was helpful. Let us know how it goes for you, I'm wishing you well! :)

    Thanks for the visit and comment, Morgan! It's nice to hear the discussion here was helpful. Let us know how it goes for you, I'm wishing you well! smile

  • Chloe Clark
    Chloe Clark South Africa
    Hey Guys, I was so happy to find this chat as I too was busy googling to see if this extreme tour was a scam... I will continue the application and revert if any positive or negative comes of it! Good luck everyone and maybe spot you on the road!

    Hey Guys,
    I was so happy to find this chat as I too was busy googling to see if this extreme tour was a scam... I will continue the application and revert if any positive or negative comes of it!
    Good luck everyone and maybe spot you on the road!

  • Ghostly Beard
    Ghostly Beard
    Thanks for visiting and commenting, Chloe! Hope you will have a good experience. Let us know how it goes when you get a chance!

    Thanks for visiting and commenting, Chloe! Hope you will have a good experience. Let us know how it goes when you get a chance!

  • Jasmine
    Jasmine Clarksville,Tennessee
    Hello, I am the assistant to an R&B artist. We were also contacted about the 2020 tour. Thank you to everyone who posted. We may try it and see what happens.

    Hello, I am the assistant to an R&B artist. We were also contacted about the 2020 tour. Thank you to everyone who posted. We may try it and see what happens.

  • Ghostly Beard
    Ghostly Beard
    Thanks Jasmine. Good luck to you!

    Thanks Jasmine. Good luck to you!

  • Austin
    Austin Virginia
    My band was just contacted as well. I have so many questions... I’ve asked the representative these same questions, and I’d love to compare with the answers I get here. When do these tours take place? What’s the deal with meeting in front of, and potentially playing for, some kind of committee? Why haven’t I heard of this before now (not that my knowledge of the organization legitimizes it, but they talk like they’re changing the game) And finally... for those of you that played last year, did you feel like you did some good for the at risk youths and people you encountered?

    My band was just contacted as well. I have so many questions... I’ve asked the representative these same questions, and I’d love to compare with the answers I get here. When do these tours take place? What’s the deal with meeting in front of, and potentially playing for, some kind of committee? Why haven’t I heard of this before now (not that my knowledge of the organization legitimizes it, but they talk like they’re changing the game)
    And finally... for those of you that played last year, did you feel like you did some good for the at risk youths and people you encountered?

  • Ghostly Beard
    Ghostly Beard
    I must say that my main concern is that they are contacting musicians, not the other way around... Usually, people who are contacting you out of the blue, pretending to be interested in your music, are looking for an opportunity to make some money. It's true of promoters for example, and why I was suspicious with the tour at first. Some people said they had good experience though, so I'd say that YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary). Wishing you best of luck, Austin!

    I must say that my main concern is that they are contacting musicians, not the other way around...
    Usually, people who are contacting you out of the blue, pretending to be interested in your music, are looking for an opportunity to make some money. It's true of promoters for example, and why I was suspicious with the tour at first. Some people said they had good experience though, so I'd say that YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary). Wishing you best of luck, Austin!

  • Austin
    Austin Virginia
    Thanks GB, I think that (being contacted) might be the first red flag that has brought all of us together here. Anyone who has played music for any amount of time knows that when something looks too good to be true, it almost definitely is.

    Thanks GB,

    I think that (being contacted) might be the first red flag that has brought all of us together here. Anyone who has played music for any amount of time knows that when something looks too good to be true, it almost definitely is.

  • Earl
    Earl Mobile, AL
    Our band just finished going through orientation. The best way I could describe this tour is it's like going on a missions trip across the United States. It is not for wanna be rock stars, but for those willing to use their gifting in music to make a positive difference in unfamiliar neighborhoods and communities. Also...if you ever been on a mission's trip then you know it cost MONEY! I'm not a fan of pay to play but like I said...this isn't a secular tour but a ministry that uses artist and musicians to reach out to hurting people. Jesus said, "For where your treasure (MONEY) is, there your heart will be also." Matthew 6:21.

    Our band just finished going through orientation. The best way I could describe this tour is it's like going on a missions trip across the United States. It is not for wanna be rock stars, but for those willing to use their gifting in music to make a positive difference in unfamiliar neighborhoods and communities. Also...if you ever been on a mission's trip then you know it cost MONEY! I'm not a fan of pay to play but like I said...this isn't a secular tour but a ministry that uses artist and musicians to reach out to hurting people. Jesus said, "For where your treasure (MONEY) is, there your heart will be also." Matthew 6:21.

  • Sean C
    Sean C Atlanta, GA
    I just received an email also from Matthew Schmid with no mention of "The Extreme Tour". It wasn't too hard with a little Googling to find out that he works with the Extreme Tour which led me here. Our band books our own tours so it wouldn't make any sense for us to pay anything to play. We're not religious so we wouldn't feel compelled to help a Ministry per se, but we like to do charity events that actually help people in need. So maybe considering playing some shows depending on whether they are actually helping people or are just trying to "convert" them.... I'll post back if anything else develops.

    I just received an email also from Matthew Schmid with no mention of "The Extreme Tour". It wasn't too hard with a little Googling to find out that he works with the Extreme Tour which led me here. Our band books our own tours so it wouldn't make any sense for us to pay anything to play. We're not religious so we wouldn't feel compelled to help a Ministry per se, but we like to do charity events that actually help people in need. So maybe considering playing some shows depending on whether they are actually helping people or are just trying to "convert" them.... I'll post back if anything else develops.

  • Sean C
    Sean C Atlanta, GA
    Also, just read this at rip off report. Doesn't sound too good actually. I'll definitely mark their emails as spam. https://ripoffscams.com/reports-filed/the-extreme-tour/alabama/the-extreme-tour-the-objective-movement-a-super-sketchy-tour-promotor-disguised-as-a-religous-non-profit-pay-to-play-scam-no-actual-tour-dates-nationwide/263102/
  • Ghostly Beard
    Ghostly Beard
    Good info, Sean! That link kind of sums up the doubts I've had about this for a while. Thanks for sharing!

    Good info, Sean! That link kind of sums up the doubts I've had about this for a while. Thanks for sharing!

  • Andre
    Andre Hartford CT
    how come there is no mention of COVID in any of these comments? The scam report was from 2016. But based on everyone's responses here, it looks like it really will happen? Also their tour schedule is posted, unlike what the scam report States from 2016. $25 is no big deal...but whats with this observational performance? Is that the next step in the elimination process? Are they gonna make us drive hundreds of miles to perform 1 or 2 songs and then just say, "no we don't need you, thanks?" Does everyone have to go through the observational performance?

    how come there is no mention of COVID in any of these comments? The scam report was from 2016. But based on everyone's responses here, it looks like it really will happen? Also their tour schedule is posted, unlike what the scam report States from 2016. $25 is no big deal...but whats with this observational performance? Is that the next step in the elimination process? Are they gonna make us drive hundreds of miles to perform 1 or 2 songs and then just say, "no we don't need you, thanks?" Does everyone have to go through the observational performance?

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